Rioters stormed and occupied the United States Capitol Building after listening to a speech given by US President Donald Trump . 

Here is a link to the transcript of the speech: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot Question Who's Online | Find Members | Private Messages
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Did Donald Trump commit insurrection with his speech on January 6, 2021?
Rioters stormed and occupied the United States Capitol Building after listening to a speech given by US President Donald Trump .

Here is a link to the transcript of the speech: https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...


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1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 9:57:16 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 8:29:09 AM CowDung wrote:
Missed the organized plan to disrupt Trump's Inauguration? Focus only on the faithless elector comment...
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 8:39:47 AM camelboy wrote:
This were protesters, not the outgoing president and democrat members of congress.


OK. The people that stormed the capitol were protesters...
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 9:59:30 AM EST (GMT-5)
...like the protesters that stormed the Wisconsin state capitol a several years earlier.
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 10:57:45 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 8:29:09 AM CowDung wrote:
Missed the organized plan to disrupt Trump's Inauguration? Focus only on the faithless elector comment...
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 8:39:47 AM camelboy wrote:
This were protesters, not the outgoing president and democrat members of congress.
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 9:57:16 AM CowDung wrote:
OK. The people that stormed the capitol were protesters...

Pushed by the lies of the douche bag lowlife president and his douche bag lowlife liar cronies.
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 11:00:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 9:59:30 AM CowDung wrote:
...like the protesters that stormed the Wisconsin state capitol a several years earlier.

Who were protesting something not based in complete lies. Lies your leader told.
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 12:28:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
Kinda like allegations that Trump only won because the election was rigged and voting machines were hacked? Claims that Trump was secretly working with Putin to defeat Clinton?
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 12:35:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Those weren’t from the president. The opponent conceded the race within days. The sitting president at the time congratulated the incoming president and invited him to the White House. So no, not kinda like that.
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 3:28:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
So the actual storming of the capitol isn't really the issue here?
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 3:30:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
I was under the impression that the failure of certain segments of the population to accept the election results and reacting in extreme fashion was the issue...
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 3:40:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
Did Donald Trump commit insurrection with his speech on January 6, 2021?

Other than being poorly worded, this is the issue we’re discussing.
1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 4:20:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
Conversations tend to evolve and move in different directions. I made my 'natural progression' comment as a disagreement with Buddy's opinion that 'there's no way this would have happened' (without Trump). We are in a chaotic age when it comes to politics. I think we will see stuff like this happen more and more as each side escalates their actions.

On Monday 5/24/21 - 6:18:31 PM buddy wrote:
Without Trump's years of lies about elections being rigged against him, there's no way this would have happened. It's less about one speech and more about a campaign of repeated, systemic lying. He has proven very well the adage that if a leader lies loudly enough and repeats the lies enough times, that people will believe.

1 yr ago - Wednesday 6/2/21 - 11:50:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
You think Trump had no influence on the events of that day? Also, you think Buddy is hot as I do?
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 1:08:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think that the far left politics on the internet are unfortunately talking just as loud as Trump did.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 1:16:04 AM EST (GMT-5)
You have a face to pin the problem on with Trump but it doesn’t mean that it’s just Trump that’s the problem.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 9:53:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 6/2/21 - 11:50:18 PM camelboy wrote:
You think Trump had no influence on the events of that day? Also, you think Buddy is hot as I do?


Yes, I think Buddy is hot. I am very impressed that he seems to have gotten better looking over the past 20 years.

I don't think that Trump's speech on January 6 made any difference at all. I think the protesters had planned to occupy the capitol long before Trump spoke that day, and would have done it regardless (a natural progression inspired by the 'occupy' movement?).

I think the events of that day were influenced by the toxic political climate we have. People seem to be unwilling (or perhaps unable) to accept or tolerate anything that the 'other side' does. The reactions to election results (among other things) have gotten far more extreme.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 9:53:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
You might say that Trump played a part in that, and you wouldn't be wrong, unless you ignore the fear mongering on the part of the anti-Trumpers. Like the ones that pushed the idea that Trump in office would be The Handmaid's Tale in real life, or those that pushed the idea that under Trump, we will be living in the 'United States of Russia', and every issue was twisted to be something way more extreme than it actually is.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 10:57:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
How did you go from “Trump played a part” (by the way, completely minimalizing the months of lying by him and his cronies and minimalizing the influence that this liar has in his fans) to it was fear-mongering that was really at fault?
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 11:16:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 6/3/21 - 10:57:33 AM camelboy wrote:
How did you go from “Trump played a part” (by the way, completely minimalizing the months of lying by him and his cronies and minimalizing the influence that this liar has in his fans) to it was fear-mongering that was really at fault?


The 'toxic political climate we have' is what is at fault. I was giving examples of how the issue goes way beyond Trump.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 11:52:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
And still minimalizing Trump, his cronies, Fox News, the big lie, and ALL of the other lies they continue to tell.
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 12:03:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 6/3/21 - 11:52:49 AM camelboy wrote:
And still minimalizing Trump, his cronies, Fox News, the big lie, and ALL of the other lies they continue to tell.


Including them as part of the toxic political climate isn't enough?
1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 12:06:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and I think that MSNBC balances Fox News pretty well. The NY Times has their moments as well- - like their reporting on the cop being murdered by protesters hitting him with a fire extinguisher.

1 yr ago - Thursday 6/3/21 - 12:59:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Agreed. Though I’d put CNN ahead of MSNBC. I think where I find the big differences and why I lean left is that one side is for greater equality and the other side wants to go back in time and freeze things. Often times voting against their own best interests .
3 months ago - Monday 2/28/22 - 5:31:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
In what organization does the leader, do his own heavy lifting? None. So just because Trump did not physically break a window at the Capital does not mean, he is innocent. White Supremacist Trump does not get a free pass.
17 days ago - Thursday 6/9/22 - 11:48:29 AM EST (GMT-5)
The speech had nothing to do with it. The rioters had planned it weeks before.
17 days ago - Friday 6/10/22 - 6:29:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 6/9/22 - 11:48:29 AM Noldor wrote:
The speech had nothing to do with it. The rioters had planned it weeks before.

Because for months he’d been lying about the election and fear-mongering about the country being stolen.
16 days ago - Friday 6/10/22 - 12:28:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
Seems like the 'stolen election' theme is pretty common...

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/...

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